Just a ten minute walk from my home in Pontrhydygroes (Welsh for the bridge of the ford of the cross) are some beautiful woodland walks. It would make a tough challenge walk to visit them all in one day. EDIT 06/07/12 The aircraft was soon reported missing and the local authorities and nearby RAF Mountain Rescue Service team were alerted. This was a first for us since most of our walks at snake pass have been lower in the valley or on the northern side on Kinder Scout, so now weve experienced more of this area Im certainly interested in a return visit and possibly hiking up from the other side at Torside Reservoir, another of my favourite places. Used it to help bring my nephews GCSE work to life. Cheers Keith. I wonder if it is from the C-47 crash site in Ashton Clough? The sign is blank save for where someone has scratched main wreckage thataway with an arrow to the left. Plane Wrecks in the Peak District: Hiking to the B-29 Superfortress Superb light on that lead shot Ian , it really brings out the red of the poppy, poignant considering what happened in Scotland yesterday. My Brother was born Nov. 3, 1947. They have yet to be named. Ossoms Hill, Grindon. The start of the path has collapsible bollards to prevent vehicular access to all but emergency services (some broken car window glass along the path tells the reason for them). Just a few miles to the east of Glossop, off the A57 Snake Pass is Bleaklow moorland. Cunningham (2006) says the bodies of the airmen were found some distance back along the line of flight of the Blenheim, suggesting the men had baled out but alas were too close to the ground to have chance to deploy their parachutes. Despite his concern, however, he had heard no subsequent impact. All 13 crewmembers on board were . Although the Aircraft Wreck Site posts have thankfully been removed (see below), there are a few with the white arrow on a black background remaining. B-29 'Over Exposed' Crash Site BeckySnow92 (Atlas Obscura User) On November 3, 1948, a B-29 Superfortress crashed in the Peak District near Bleaklow. Andrew looks over the wing of the B-24 Liberator, aircraft wrecks on Kinder and Bleaklow. XD707 and XD730 : The North American F-86 Sabre and its Canadair version, the CL 13, North American F-86 Sabre F.Mk 4s XD707 + XD730: Kinder Scout Crash Site Vandalism. The path turns right (north east) briefly but then switches back. On Bleaklow thats at best an inconvenient and frustrating experience and at worst a call out for Mountain Rescue. Arlington National Cemetary, Section 12. From the trig point, walk east to do a small detour to visit the B29 Superfortress crash site (grid reference SK 09063 94874). It was foggy of course as it always is in these tales. This was my first attempt at finding this site in 2008. On the 3rd November 1948 RB-29A 44-61999 was being used for a flight from Scampton near Lincoln to Burtonwood near Warrington, a flight of less than a hour. The United States Airforce Boeing RB . I think its nonsense myself, but if it deters people from robbing these places maybe I should promote the validity of these tales! Sad tale Ian. It would require a climb back from the bottom of Ashton Clough if you want to see the wreckage in the clough, then follow the Pennine Way, via Doctors Gate, over Bleaklow to the other three sites, then back down to Longdendale. Air Crash Sites - aircrashsites.co.uk Corporal George Ingram A good piece of kit is a lifesaver bottle which has a water purification filter which means you can fill up from streams. In fact, a B-29 Bleaklow Bomber also crashed in 1948 in the UK at Glossop, leaving no survivors on board, and its wreckage was also [], Your email address will not be published. Maximum speed 358mph at 25.000ft. Seen to many accidents in my time. Having arrived at these fragments, I was unable to locate the rest. Added to that, some of the Pennine Way marker stones had been moved around or toppled over It could have been confusing. Weather was pretty m A day out in Bowland with IanDB in low cloud yesterday yielded this Burn Fell B-24 site I've missed in the past. Andrew I think it was from the crash site above where someone once took a piece of wreckage home and put it in thier garden shed, which almost shook itself to bits during the night, so the bloke whod taken the debris returned it to the crash site the following morning. You can see more examples of this at his site. Listed summits of Bleaklow: Name Grid ref Height Status Higher Shelf Stones: 621 m: Nuttall Bleaklow Stones: 628 m: Bleaklow. If you want to visit via the trig point at Higher Shelf Stones, you will need to keep heading north west across rough moor (no path) until you come to the edge of the moor and the drop to White Clough, then turn right. Which tragically crashed whilst descending through cloud on 3rd November 1948 killing all 13 crewmembers. B29 plane crash site, epic views across the moors to Manchester. To have a sign with the words, AIRCRAFT WRECK SITE Follow waymarked route, just a few metres from the lay-by at the top of the Snake Pass (circled in the image below) could have led unprepared visitors deeper into the moors. We thoroughly enjoyed the walk which is at least way marked by posts along the way. When Over Exposed! failed to arrive at Burtonwood, an air search was initiated and that afternoon the burning wreck was spotted high on the moors near Higher Shelf Stones. Grid reference SK 09223 95910. If you care to read the report from the recovery party in full, you may find out how David Devere Moore perished. As we reached the Higher Shelf Stones summit, the B29 Superfortress crash site is spread out across the moorland before us, quite a shocking scene to see. Private First Class William M. Burrows. One of the gun turrets is on display at the air museum in Newark-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire. SK 06926 89664 Kinder: initial impact point, start of debris trail (illustrated above), SK 07268 90236 Black Ashop Moor: wings, gear, with an engine in an adjacent grough, SK 07300 90100 Black Ashop Moor, two debris pools, SK 07548 90390 Black Ashop Moor, the second engine, I note that there is a lot less here then in. Bleaklow Bomber. I was taking in the 55 km Laugavegur Hiking Trail . Thanks Paul, I should read Pats book. Would be a struggle for a 2 year old but if in a carrier, maybe. Higher Shelf Stones Circular Walk (+ Plane Crash Site) | 6-Mile Walk Span 141 ft 3 in. However the aircraft was not quite passed the hills and struck the ground a short way East of Higher Shelf Stones on Bleaklow and was destroyed by fire. It had been toppled but in 2022 has been put back. Bleaklow Plane Crash Walk. Then Blenheim L1476, on to Over-Exposed! and so on. bleaklow plane crash grid ref - heernproperties.com beside the moorland known as National Trusts, Maps and compass are always a great idea for rugged hikes and walks. Aircraft crash. Aircraft wrecks on Kinder and Bleaklow - Outside.co.uk bless you for helping us to remember. For more on ghost stories please see the comments under this photo. This is not the work of "curious walkers". At the end of this short paved section there are some steps down to cross a little stream at SK 09210 93611. Your email address will not be published. It appeared to be part of the nose, or tail, wheel assembly and included the chromed stanchion and steel fittings. Look no further. Finding the Bleaklow Bomber crash site should be a breeze. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE: This walk without kids will take over 2 hours. The Higher Shelf Stones is classified as an English Nuttal 233rd highest in England, 403rd in England & Wales.) Sgt. Some great light on the poppy Ian, nicely done. Pat Cunningham has offered a bit of a blurb about the Sabre, and its Canadair development the CL-13: I had a great day out with Ian DB last Saturday on and around Shining Tor, near Macclesfield. Photographic reconnaissance squadron USAF. Janine lives in Nottinghamshire; she enjoys walking in the countryside and spending time around animals and nature. The crash occurred on his 1st Birthday. Latitude: 5326'34"N. Below; Reliable GPS coordinates and open discussion from Mat, Pat and Sean. The moorland views were spectacular 360 degrees of beauty and the trail well kept which is a real treat considering the exposed moorland all around with some very extreme weather conditions at this high level with no let up throughout the winter months especially. We found a parking space along A57 Snake Pass beside the moorland known as National Trusts Hope Woodlands Moor. Based on the flight time, the crew believed it had passed the hills and began to descend. I agree, these places are now like memorials and should be left alone. We were feeling quite in awe here and we paid our respects to the crew at the memorial. Ours has been great value. Thanks. their garden shed) or for use in a project that has as much chance of getting off the ground as the crashed aircraft show no respect for the men who died at these places or indeed the surviving family members or other visitors. It sounds like you followed the Pennine Way a bit too far. Looking for aircraft wreck site coordinates in Derbyshire, Staffordshire, and the rest of the Midlands, The Peak District, Yorkshire Moors, Snowdonia, Lake District, Trough of Bowland, Brecon Beacons or Shropshire? The aircraft had, for at least part of its existance, carried the name Over Exposed, it got the name while being used by the 509th Composite Group to photograph atomic weapon tests as part of Operation Crossroads at Bikini Atoll during 1946. North American F. Mk.4 Sabres (or are they Canadair CL-13s?) Great shot! All of the wreckage seen last time is gone, though a bit of skinning and a new cross have replaced it. However, if you need to get your bearings when you are at the site, the trig point is visible from the memorial stone. . Start grid reference for this walk is: SK 08808 92913 and the car parking location: Snake Pass (A57), above Glossop. It is unlawful to remove debris as well as unethical but clearly that wont stop the minority. The sunlight was worth the wait. I often see bits of debris which people have carried and then dumped, presumably because it was too heavy to carry. From October 2020, there was a bus route over the Snake Pass with bus stops at the top of the pass but this service stopped in January 2022. There is public access to the area. The crash happened on his 1st Birthday, he was born Nov. 3, 1947. It was time to turn back and return to the trail down from Bleaklow. David Devere Moore is buried in Wash. D.C, USA. USAAF P-51D Mustang 44-64084. de Havilland Tiger Moth T6464, Saddleworth. The trail is a twisty up and down route with peat bogs either side along some sections and lots of wild cotton growing here and there, so delicate looking in this rugged landscape. Republic P-47D-1-RE Thunderbolts, 42-7872 and 42-7898. The morons who take wreckage from these sites aree very disrespectful but it s diffcult to see how it can be stopped. Trig point at Higher Shelf Stones (on a sunny day!) All 13 men on board were killed instantly when the aircraft flew into the moor. I am Terry David Moore, last living direct relative of David Devere Moore. The most obvious route is from the trig pillar at the summit of Higher Shelf Stones. David Devere Moore is buried in Arlington National Cemetary in Wash., DC., Section 12, right down hill from the Tomb of the Unknown soldier. Time your visit with the heather season in the Peak District; this is for roughly three weeks from late August to early September. I would suggest path B which has the signpost mentioned above. Boeing RB-29A 44-61999 of the 16th Photographic Reconnaissance Squadron, 91st Reconnaissance Group, 311th Air Division, Strategic Air Command, USAF, Crashed at Higher Shelf Stones on Bleaklow near Glossop 3rd November 1948. In low cloud, you might be better off taking the slightly longer route via Hern Clough. Location: SK 11077 97532 Posted by Sean at 17:24 No comments: . I had a stroll up Carnedd Daffydd last weekend, to have a look for the missing Cessna engine block amongst other things. In fact, it gets me out of the house to be honest, as Paul has said, takes us tramping all over the place and coming back to these isolated spots in different weathers and at different times of year (good point Ang!) Look no further. Also surviving was David Deveres Mother, Mary L. Moore. Your email address will not be published. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/23802253@N07] Lol, thanks for that Jason. This path follows a dike across Alport Low, the dike being marked on OS 1:50000 maps but not on 1:25000 maps. This is a unique walk to visit the B-29 Bleaklow Bomber crash site. Old Glossop and B-29 Crash Site - Red Kite Days This photo (my first visit to this site in low cloud) shows some fragments with similar exposed peat. The USAF Crash report states the weather that day was cloudy/foggy, perhaps drizzling rainy, and about 2000 ft. ceiling at best. Discover the Weekend Walks: Bleaklow Plane Crash Site ; and other walking, running and cycling routes with OS Maps online mapping and route planning tools. Lancaster PA411 RAF; Lightning P38J 42-67207 Revisit 2. I will get back there soon and will leave a poppy cross with your dads name on it in remembrance of him. In his descending just at a good time by clock time, in the fog and low ceiling, the wind may have placed the aircraft at a lesser distance forward then thought. Thanks for the history bit too! The crash site memorial stone at the north western edge of the site is at SK 09040 94896 which is about 200m to the north east of the trig point on Higher Shelf Stones. All that rusty wreckage seems to mirror the peaty hues behind it.Funny who you can bump into isnt it ? He tried to set the load down again, but as a skid made contact with the ground a rolling motion was imparted and the helicopter, with its ability to respond to corrective lateral control now diminished, tipped onto its side. So do I Ian, TBF Andrew, you have to make a specific effort to come across it, its hardly strewn across the Pennine way. Where the Pennine Way crosses the stream is where the path to the crash site branches off on the left. The boulders throughout the Bleaklow area are spectacular and worn into different shapes and figures from the harsh weather conditions that have battered them and if you have a good imagination you can see all sorts of things when looking at the strange shapes. Low cloud makes for an atmospheric visit but it also increases the chances of getting lost. I was thinking, he must be coming here, theres nothing else out here except this place But I hadnt slept all night so it did cross my mind I might be hallucinating! Air Crash Sites. There are lots of reasons why people should not remove artefacts from air crash sites, ethical and legal, plus the landowner forbids it too. For more, please see the account of a member of the recovery party which arrived on site the day after (photo above, top left or link here). My Mother, Doris Moore, my Brother Tom Moore, and myself, Terry Moore were the only surviving family members. Most of the Bleaklow area is at least 2,000 feet (610 m) above sea level and the shallow bowl of Swains Greave on the eastern side is the source of the River Derwent. In clear weather you will see the dike crossing the moor; this is the route back to the PW and the quickest way back to the Snake Pass. B29 'Overexposed' crash site walk, Bleaklow (6km, circular): including Higher Shelf trig point . It is about 45 60 minutes walk to the crash site from the lay-by (car parking and bus stops) at the summit of Snake Pass. Much of it is nearly 2,000 feet (610m) above sea level and the shallow bowl of Swains Greave on its eastern side is the source of the River Derwent. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/peacelovescoobie] The nearby crater of the following plane no longer has any visible wreckage t all. I honestly cant advise. Went out with Mat ZX on Friday for three sites he hadn't been to before on the back end of Bleaklow, including LX518. Co-pilot, Captain Harry Stroud It is fairly easy walking but over uneven and often boggy ground so Id err on the side of caution and say not, personally, and if you needed help it can be difficult to get a connection up there. The debris of the aircraft was scattered with only the tail section intact. A good piece of kit is a lifesaver bottle which has a water purification filter which means you can fill up from streams. This Bleaklow plane crash walk features tough terrain and remote moorland locations. Here lies the wreckage of B-29 Superfortress Over Exposed of the 16, . OVER EXPOSED IN the Bleaklow plane crash site. Nat Park - Peak District - Bleaklow Longendale. Sergeant Robert I. Doyle There has been considerable investment of resources in recent years to block many of the eroded peat gulleys as part of major schemes to re-wet and restore healthy Sphagnum moss communities which are essential for peat formation, carbon capture, and reduction in dissolved carbon which contaminates water supplies. Bleaklow from Old GlossopPeak District Walk. 64 (Fighter) Squadron, Church Fenton, Yorkshire, the Air Ministry regrets to announce that P/O Stanley John Daly Robinson and P/O Jack Elliott Thomas lost their lives on that date; the wreckage of the aircraft was located on Bleak Low Moor, near Glossop, Derbyshire. Differing reports have the two airmen walking away from the crash, to Sgt Najvar waking up in hospital a few days later. All of these air crash sites are detailed on this website. [5] On 3 November 1948, USAF Boeing RB-29A Superfortress 4461999, of the 16th Photographic Reconnaissance Squadron, 91st Reconnaissance Group, 311th Air Division, Strategic Air Command, crashed at Higher Shelf Stones, Bleaklow (53272.12N 15154.03W / 53.4505889N 1.8650083W / 53.4505889; -1.8650083), en route from Scampton to Burtonwood. Randolph R. Mohlenrich Jr, Passenger, Killed. Required fields are marked *. Labels: air, coordinates, Crash, grid reference, pictures, site. Higher Shelf Stones is ahead and to the left. Thank you for your reverence to those who died in this accident. did prince philip like diana; what is st constance the patron saint of; logstash beats output; english bulldog puppies for sale in los angeles; how does the environment affect human behavior Walk north along the Pennine Way (PW) from the layby along the made path (the new path and paving further on is to minimise the erosion of the Devils Dike). In 1988, a memorial was erected at the site by servicemen from RAF Finningley, with a plaque in memory of those who died in the crash. Ref from Pat Cunningham's book, High Peak Air Crash Sites. There is one at this point now, which is helpful. Shame about the lack of footie perhaps youll watch tennis instead!!! The Snake Pass can be found in the Peak District, along the A57 main road that runs from Ladybower Reservoir to Glossop. However, since a visit in November 2021, all these Aircraft Wreck Site signs have been removed which I am sure was a sensible decision. View on Bing maps using Ordnance Survey mapping. Sergeant Donald R. Abrogast Thank you for your visit Terry, and thank you too for the additional information. Striking view of these engines Very good photo in warm morning light. We will be back again as soon as possible to explore much more of the area. It certainly adds meaning to my hill walking. UK Air Crash Site Coordinates (Formerly Peak Wreck Hunters): 2018 - Blogger It is about a 2-mile (3.2km) walk to the crash site from the lay-by at the summit of Snake Pass, starting along the Pennine Way footpath through Devil's Dyke. Required fields are marked *. I had taken a bearing from my bivi site and tramped across the moor in the darkness, planning on catching the first of the sunlight. It was a routine flight with 2 other aircraft, the RB29 carrying USAF wages among .
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